Tuesday, October 26, 2010
CNN reports on voting tech
"Use of any touch-screen voting machine is the equivalent of a 100% faith-based election. No votes cast during an election -- none -- can be verified as having been accurately recorded on such systems. Ever."
CNN - Analysis: Our votes are counted accurately -- aren't they? - By Dave Schechter - September 30, 2010
The quote comes from Brad Friedman of The Brad Blog - Pac-Man Hacked Onto a Touch-Screen Voting Machine Without Breaking 'Tamper-Evident' Seals - August 21, 2010
Incidentally, this statement also applies to Internet and telephone voting.
Labels: electronic voting
Arnprior voting extended by 24 hours due to technical issues
This is a serious voting system failure. I think "glitch" is a bit of an understatement. First you hand your voting system over to a private company, and then it doesn't work? That's a surrender followed by a failure, not a glitch.
Incidentally "we are just too popular a service" is not an explanation, it's an excuse.
If your system doesn't work, that is a technology planning failure. If the obvious visible parts of the system don't work, how much should we trust the parts of the system that we can't see?
- CTV Ottawa - Electronic voting creates problems across eastern Ont. - Updated: Tue Oct. 26 2010 5:14:43 PM
- CBC News - Technical glitch extends Arnprior vote 1 day - Last Updated: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 | 12:05 AM ET
- Arnprior EMC News - Intelivote explains voting problems in Arnprior - Oct 26, 2010
- Ottawa Citizen - Overloaded e-vote system means Arnprior voters get another day to cast ballots - October 26, 2010 - also republished in the Vancouver Sun
- 580 CFRA News - Election Extended in Arnprior - by Josh Pringle - October 26, 2010
It's interesting to compare this result with the glowing pre-election news stories about how wonderful this would all be.
Kemptville EMC News - North Grenville begins electronic voting Oct. 18 - October 14, 2010
According to director of corporate services/clerk Cahl Pominville, residents shouldn't be afraid of the process, noting that if "you can order from Sears over the phone, you can use electronic voting." ...
"It's not a big scary monster," he says of electronic voting, which will be handled by Intelivote Systems Inc. in eastern Canada. "It's been done by thousands and thousands of people in eastern Ontario in previous elections."
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Pominville stressed that residents using the Internet voting method needn't be concerned about the security issues of the website they are being asked to visit.
"Residents will be connecting to a website in a very large, secure room in Nova Scotia," he explained. "It's a disaster-proof building that houses this kind of stuff."
Apparently it is not voting-day Internet-traffic-proof, sadly.
Incidentally, there is no difference between high real traffic and a denial of service attack - presumably a botnet could just as easily have shut this site out.
There's so much to mock about the tone and unseriousness of this article - it totally misses the point about Internet voting. The issue is not whether it's easy to click a website button or the server room is hurricane-proof. The issue is whether YOUR VOTE IS SECURE, ANONYMOUS AND CORRECTLY COUNTED. None of which the system can guarantee.
More pre-election fluff:
Arnprior EMC News - Town staff provide overview of electronic voting process Voting in municipal election runs from Oct. 18-25 - October 14, 2010
(Town clerk Jacquie Farrow-Lawrence), along with deputy-clerk Maureen Spratt, provided a demonstration of how the electronic voting system, provided by Intelivote System Inc., would work. She then explained the extensive publicity campaign that has gone into preparing the electorate for the new system.
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"It is a secure process," Spratt explained as she proceeded to demonstrate voting by computer.
So first you pay the private company to use their Internet voting system (which turns out I guess to be a shared voting system), and then you pay to promote it to your citizens?
Plus which, define secure. Secure as in, it uses SSL? Secure as in you have a consultant report that says it's secure? Or secure as in you paid for a penetration test by computer security experts and they failed to compromise the system AND they failed to compromise the desktop endpoints that users voted? And you also paid business continuity experts to ensure it held up under denial of service AND network connection failure AND under high load?
People standing in a room counting paper is a highly resilient, low points of failure system.
Computer desktops + the entire Internet + server room(s) + the entire power grid + many many other technology elements is a many points of failure system.
Labels: fail, internet voting, ontario, telephone voting
legal perspective on e-voting
* Electronic Voting and the Law: It’s Not Like E-Banking by John Gregory in Slaw ("Slaw is a cooperative Canadian weblog on all things legal")
Includes a nice section dismantling the "if we can bank electronically why not vote electronically" idea, including
Banking: If someone has tampered with bank records (or the system malfunctions), the participants can restore balance by transferring money to where it belongs. The legal system allocates loss according to negligence, or by statute, among innocent parties if the rogue can’t be found.
Voting: If someone has tampered with the election results (or the system malfunctions), it is very difficult to restore normality without running the election again, even if one can find the rogue. The rogue is never able to restore things to where they should be.
* Editorial: Time to consider municipal election reform by Glenn Kauth in Law Times
Takes on the "electronic voting will help voter turnout" myth.
previous elections have shown that few people actually decide to cast a ballot. So finding new ways to get them out to the polls seems like a good idea.
But in Calgary, we’ve already seen what it takes: an exciting election with inspiring candidates.
Labels: canada, citizen engagement, electronic voting, internet voting
Sunday, October 24, 2010
Twitter responses to Tony Clement on Internet voting
This is obviously not a scientific analysis or anything, just the results I could find categorized as best I can. I didn't include my own (@papervote) tweets.
One person both asked a question and was supportive of it as a way to increase participation.
Two questions were from the same person, so I only counted them once.
I have grouped into
* supporting / interested in Internet voting 5
* questioning / concerned about Internet voting 7
* retweets (either without comments or without any specific pro/con) 5
* other 1
Supporting
@TonyClement_MP hmm.. I wonder if I can too.. now that I've reviewed platforms and all the info is fresh in my mind..
That's great! RT @TonyClement_MP Just voted in my municipality's election, online. Very convenient. This Internet thing may catch on
@TonyClement_MP sounds ideal. is it just your munic? if not, could you post a link? tx.
@TonyClement_MP I think, that will make more people to perticipate in politic.
Wish I could do that in TO.. RT @TonyClement_MP: Just voted in my municipality's election, online. Very (cont) http://tl.gd/6kfp9s
Questioning
@TonyClement_MP Was this a secret ballot? Bell has permission to use DPI to look at your vote. #privacy #cdnpoli
@TonyClement_MP how do they keep it anonymous, authenticated and auditable? Otherwise online voting sounds great!
@TonyClement_MP hum. You may want to watch this before the next election you vote online.... http://gizmo.do/au570z
@TonyClement_MP How do you know your vote was counted? Is it possible for scrutineers to confidently say that all votes made through?
Probably also very hackable. RT @TonyClement_MP: Just voted in my municipality's election, online. Very convenient.
@TonyClement_MP Do you have a plan to make voting more convinient, fraud free and secure?
@TonyClement_MP How was the secrecy of your ballot assured? Then: http://is.gd/gg1pC Post-Harper (or ...Now): http://is.gd/gg1t5
@TonyClement_MP Few 'voters' have been party to court proceedings vs. Elections Canada. How was the secrecy of your ballot assured?
Retweets
These are people retweeting Tony Clement, without indicating whether they are for or against Internet voting.
RT @TonyClement_MP: Just voted in my municipality's election, online. Very convenient. This Internet thing may catch on...
internet is on the computer now! Haha RT @TonyClement_MP: voted in my municipal election online ... This Internet thing may catch on...
RT @tonyclement_mp: Just voted in my municipality's election, online. Very convenient. This Internet thing may catch on...
RT @TonyClement_MP: Just voted in my municipality's election, online. Very convenient. This Internet thing may catch on...
Interesting... RT @TonyClement_MP: Just voted in my municipality's election, online. Very convenient. This Internet thing may catch on...
Other
Dare I ask: would you want online federal elections? RT @tonyclement_mp: Just voted in my municipality's election, online. Very convenient.
Labels: canada, internet voting